Friday, February 04, 2005


After carefully research on the net, we finally decided to choose Tapestry+Sping+Hibernate. There is alot to learn. I've kinda experience of Hibernate but know nothing about Tapestry and Spring. I found Appfuse is a good base to kick off, but seems Raible is much more interested in Struts than Tapestry....but it is still a good tuitorial for Spring+Hibernate.
Also, downloaded the petshop example for study. Hopefully I can get through quickly.


Blogger Matt Raible said...

I'm not more interested in Struts than Tapestry - it just happens to be the default (and most used) option in AppFuse. I've tried to convince my last couple of clients to use JSF or Tapestry over Struts, but they didn't bite. What makes you think I prefer Struts over Tapestry?

3:40 PM  
Blogger Henry said...

Matt - This is a real suprise coz I was not expecting your comment on this. I got the feeling from your recent post on your blog So Struts is Dead, huh? I'm sorry if I misunderstood anything. More importantly, Appfuse with Tapestry support is actually using many Struts. But I'd like to get started with a "clean" Tapestry app with no taglibs. Then appfuse lose its meaning if I have to convert the taglibs to Tapestry.

4:08 PM  
Blogger Matt Raible said...

I believe you're referring to the use of SiteMesh and Struts Menu, as well as the login pages. These are JSPs, but (in an AppFuse context), I think there's good reasons for them. These pages and plugins are common across all the web frameworks in AppFuse - so it made it a lot easier (and faster) to integrate Tapestry w/o changing everything to be Tapestry.

In my opinion, it's more important that things work rather than that it's a pure Tapestry app. Furthermore, any container that can run Tapestry can run JSPs - so it's perfectly acceptable (IMO) to have a few JSPs in a Tapestry application.

That being said - Erik Hatcher has recently written a Tapestry decorator and someone has also sent me a Tapestry version of something similar to Struts Menu (I just haven't had time to integrate it). Modifying the login.jsp and loginError.jsp to be Tapestry pages should also be easier now that Acegi Security has been integrated (instead of container-managed security).

You're not the first Tapestry user to complain about JSPs in AppFuse, so this is something I do want to change - even though it will make AppFuse harder to maintain.

10:54 AM  
Blogger Chris Nelson said...

So I ran across through Matt Raible's blog, and I thought I would stick in my obligatory pitch for Trails. Since you've already chosen Tapestry, Spring, and Hibernate, Trails may make it even easier to get things done.

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